Nerves & Dysfunction

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Women have it easy.

That’s right, I said it.  The prevailing notion is that a man can and will fuck anything presented to him, (and, to be fair, some men CAN and WILL) but in the lifestyle there are a few added stressors that can make that stereotype a bit less…possible.  Uh oh, settle in, Cooper’s talking ED.

Well, look at it from our perspective here for a moment.  My wife (or partner), even if she’s not 100% into it, or is feeling a bit self conscious, or nervous, with some lube and a few well timed moans, she can perform exactly as expected.  Not that I’m suggesting she SHOULD fake it, I’m just saying that she CAN.

We can’t, really…

And for a lot of us, especially those new to the group sex experience, especially those who have been monogamous for a long time…well…things don’t always function as well as we’d like.  After all, there’s another guy there with another cock, and this is often a VERY new experience indeed.  Then assume that guy is performing the way you wish you could be.  And then (perhaps the biggest hurdle of all) assume he’s doing this with your wife while you sit on the other side of the bed with a gorgeous woman you desperately WANT to please with a very unimpressive flaccid shorty hanging between your legs.

You know, hypothetically, of course.

I’ve been told by (and believe) several women in the lifestyle when they say that as long as the man (and his tongue and fingers) are willing to overcome this minor inconvenience, well, they’re pleased as punch.  And I believe them when they say this.

But I don’t think women quite understand the psychological feedback loop we can find ourselves in.  It happens once, then next time we worry if it’ll happen again, which of course makes it that much more likely, then after another time or two the doomsday scenario appears where we begin to wonder if we’ll EVER get it hard with a playmate again.  Seriously, this goes through our heads!

The first thing we have to acknowledge as men in the lifestyle is that our cocks WILL fail us.  It’s a fact of life.  Could be this time, next time, or in five years, regardless of health or masturbatory regimen.  And it may fail us in the erection (aka, classic failure) or it may decide fuck all you want, no orgasm for you! (aka, new and surprising insanity.)

These things can be medical, to be sure, and if they’re happening in ALL situations, not just lifestyle ones, you should definitely schedule a visit with your doctor to be poked and prodded. For many of us, though, it’s a situation where I’m fine with my wife, and when I take matters into my own hands, but when you add the swingset…

My message to the guys is simple: know that it happens, and not only to you.  Know that worrying only reinforces that feedback loop, and as hard as this may be, relaxing is often the cure.  Also know that it will probably just pass on its own.

For the ladies, well, I’ve got a tip or two for ya.  When dealing with this situation, we’re probably going to apologize, because we feel as though we’ve let you down.  (You know how fragile we men can be.) Just make sure we know you’re having fun regardless, and perhaps direct our face between your legs.  Often, while we’re working on something else and aren’t thinking about our neurosis, it resolves itself.

We KNOW that most of you have far more orgasms through oral sex than penetrative sex, but that societal definition that has turned SEX into only cocks going into holes  (I say holes so as not to exclude the bis and gays.  Hi, guys!) has made us really second guess your urges.  While for you, the main course may well be us licking your lap.

Now, to the topic of…assistance.  Prescription pills like Viagra and Cialis as well as those herbal supplements like Stiff Nights can and do help.  And one of these can be great for breaking the feedback loop and popping that boner when you really need a “win.”  But if you don’t NEED them, then you want to be careful you don’t set yourself up for dependency by taking them every time.  Then you might create a brand new feedback loop.  So tread lightly.

Now, those of you who complain about men who can’t always get it up, and put on your profiles that you’re looking for men who can get and maintain an erection…go fuck yourself!  You’re part of the problem.

Anybody have any other suggestions to help overcome this inconvenient issue?  Let us know in the comments!

About

Cooper's life isn't like other people's. When he's not writing or podcasting at Life on the Swingset, he's living it up with his wife Marilyn as evangelical swingers, spreading the good word that "sharing is caring." He truly believes that a good many people would be open to exploring the fringe of human sexuality, knocking down the borders between orientations, and experiencing the most basic of human rights: great sex, if only they were told it's okay to do so. He has resolved to change the world, even if it's only one couple at a time. Be his friend on Facebook – Follow him on Twitter
  • Mistress Arabella

    Horny Goat Weed (despite its name) is a great herbal supplement that's safe for most men to use. It comes in capsules and also tea… (I recommend the pure form… not mixed with other supplements)… Also, ginger can do wonders if you're into that ever-so-kinky practice known as "figging" … And there are magic potions for women, too. Believe me, we need 'em too, sometimes. And if we don't feel SAFE and EMOTIONALLY SECURE then we're gonna have a much harder time getting off. Just sayin'…

    • http://www.redregioninferno.com/theinferno/ Inferno

      "Now, those of you who complain about men who can’t always get it up, and put on your profiles that you’re looking for men who can get and maintain an erection…go fuck yourself! You’re part of the problem."

      That go fuck yourself part is pretty funny, and it is also true that those women are part of the problem.
      We have a couple that they guy is usually fine, but once he gets an issue it is a back and forth thing…. He never had a problem until a woman pressuered him about rising fast (and that made it not rise) and then she was cruel to him about it. That one instance Fucked him up for good because he is in a constant state of fear now about not being able to perform. The end result is that both he and his wife suffer for it because he simply refuses to play with any new couples and will only play with couples he is extreamly comfortable with and believes to be actual friends (rather than just sex friends) because he is afraid of ridicule.

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/lifeontheswingset Cooper

    That poor guy! I'm sure that happens more than anyone would like to admit. I just remember one profile with the line "If you can't get hard fast and stay hard, don't bother contacting us!" I rarely have a problem these days, but that line made me say absolutely not to that profile. Not going to give it a chance to happen with that couple.

    Payton wrote a blog post about her boyfriend playing a very mean intimidation game. Check it out: http://www.lifeontheswingset.com/2010/04/short-sh

  • http://swapfu.blogspot.com Mr Swap Fu

    Cooper,

    No mention of my favorite culprit? The bitch-goddess Alcohol! With one hand she gives us the courage to perform deviant, often-dangerous and (if you're lucky) messy sex acts, and with the other she takes can take away our boners quicker than you can say "bend over, baby".

    Drinking in excess is a boner extinguisher. If I'm going to play, I limit myself to one beer per hour. For me, that's something that has taken a concerted effort and it has paid off big time.

    Also, blood pressure medication and diabetes can cause ED… two more good reasons to lose weight.

    Good topic, sorry it has to exist.

  • http://www.kinkylibrarian.net MasterDoc

    This is "MasterDoc", the dominant of the kinkylibrarian. I saw you on her blog as part of the latest elust. This is a good discussion.
    To add one thing: perhaps viewing impotence in a swing situation as a canary in the mine shaft (aka an early warning sign) is a useful technique. I was cutting back on swinging since I was having an ED problem too often with new partners (although doing fine with regular ones). However, when i started having hot flashes too I wondered if there might be an organic problem. Sure enough, my testosterone was waaaaay low. Now I'm getting treated and back to my doggish ways.
    Why wait until late to get a problem in SUCH an important area checked out? :)

    • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/lifeontheswingset lifeontheswingset

      Agreed, MasterDoc, if anything's happening with frequency…get that checked out!

  • http://bejeweleddownunder.blogspot.com/ jewel

    yes they should fuck themselves. I am on the other side of the fence as far as gender goes, but I am on the anoragasmic side of things as well. It is hard for me to get off in new situations despite the arousal, despite the excitement….I still enjoy it though and don't like being pressured to have an orgasm…I have recently committed to not faking it, but still cant we all just play nice?

    • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/lifeontheswingset lifeontheswingset

      Really that should be the goal across the board…whether you're having an orgasm or not, chances are you're having a good time or you'd stop doing it…so just go with the flow, enjoy yourself, and then get your orgasm in another way.

  • He Said

    Cooper –
    I was looking up information on the supplement you mentioned, Stiff Nights, and it appears to be the subject of an FDA recall. http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformat

    I am hoping not to have to go the little-blue-pill route, but I am looking at all the options. First plan of attack is to play again with a couple we are quite comfortable with in hopes I can break the feedback loop by focusing less on my orgasm and more on hers (and hers).

    • http://www.lifeontheswingset.com Cooper

      It's being recalled because it has actual viagra in it…same risks, can't be called an herbal suppliment

  • Mike

    Awesome post. I can totally relate! For me, I've been able to trace my occasional ED problems to alcohol. When I knopw ahead of time that there might be "play time" later in the night, I limit myself, otherwise I tend to have various ED problems. Unfortunately, the couples that we play with are more of a spontaneous thing, where we deliberately go into a night out not planning on plahy time, but then as people get more and more drunk, the play time usually manifests itself and then I find myself scrambling to take half a Viagra to prep myself. Ah…the joys of getting old.

  • http://twitter.com/toybeast7x5 @toybeast7x5

    ever heard this joke? "Which is worse…..finding out for the first time you can't do it a second time? or finding out for the second time you can't do it the first time?"

    Bet you laughed didn't you? Funny

    I'd say both are equally troubling….but the joke says a lot about our expectations…both from our partners and from ourselves.

    Having been the victim of both the cruel ridiculing partner(s) and my own fear of failure, I basically quit trying. If and when I go to a play party I am usually there for my partner to have fun, or I go with the intentions (and expectations) of never getting it up (yes…I know this alone sets me up for failure), and the total desire to work my magic with my fingers and tongue should I be so lucky. I enjoy being around sexually free and open people….but generally around here the folks you run into in the swing scene are what I call "sport-fuckers" and don't usually have my (or anyone elses for that matter) emotional and mental well being at heart. Selfishness abounds.

    However in the BDSM scene, folks seem to be kinder and aware of implications beyond the physical…..and there's tons of fucking going on there as well. That's where I invest more erotic time and energy….and most of the time there I don't even have to worry about it because my cock doesn't even see the light of day.

  • celtic239

    I have ED, use Viagra and wouldn't think about "leaving home without it",

  • LoneStukStar

    Gentlemen, I have been in the lifestyle for several years and must say that this has happened a few times to me as well, however, when I have set back and thought about what was the cause there have been various reasons not just one. Taking blood pressure medication and drinking excess alcohol will definitely cause this, low testosterone and exhaustion will as well. In all situations I have found that communication with your partner or mate works best and as far as I am concerned I get as much satisfaction pleasing the lady in other ways than just using my cock. Learn to use all the tools you have been born with to satisfy your partner, after all isn't this about pleasure and fun? Why make it a task to accomplish or a goal to succeed. Enjoy having fun and be aware of your health and alcohol intake. My rule is … if I have to get drunk to do the deed, why am I even doing this?
    By the way ladies, shame on you for putting such pressure on the men in the lifestyle, we know you want satisfaction, how about some communication while were together rather than putting restriction on your profile… you just might be missing out on contact from some guys who would really satisfy you but are "worried they might fail"
    I don't know about the rest of you but we are in the lifestyle for friendship, fun, to fulfill fantasies and relaxation from the normal worldly ways.

    • http://lifeontheswingset.com Cooper

      To be fair, the vast majority of the ladies I’ve encountered have not put ANY pressure on me. Of course I tend to just not get together with those who would…

  • http://twitter.com/TBK365 @TBK365

    I went searching on your site for just this topic. So glad you covered it recently! (Male Erectile Dysfunction)

  • Lori

    Hi,
    You mentioned briefly ” or it may decide fuck all you want, no orgasm for you! (aka, new and surprising insanity.)” which can be a big problem for anybody using anti-depressants.  If anybody has any suggestions around this side of the problem, would be happy to hear it.